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Friday, July 7 2006
"Wife Swap" on ABC Television / Craigslist

Here's something that was on CraigsList yesterday (since pulled) and followed by an e-mail forwarded to us by a friend of the Black Rock City Community Collective. The posting is starkly different than the personal e-mail.

We have since contacted Andie Grace and Maid Marian, the Communications Department at BM-org to investigate this and are awaiting their response.

> Subject: (creative gigs) Going to Burning Man? (financial district)
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 08:17:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Craigslist Subscriptions" <subscriptions@craigslist.org>
> Reply-To: Rachelle.Mendez@rdfusa.com
>
> ABC TV is currently researching & interviewing families who attend
> BURNING MAN.
>
> Ideal candidates believe in self-reliance, expression, and community.
>
> Please call:212-404-2442 or email a family photo and description to:
> rachelle.mendez@rdfusa.com.
>
> All families featured on the show receive a $20,000 honorarium. If
> you refer a family that we feature on the show you receive $1,000.
>
> Apply Today. Casting immediately!
>


Thu, July 6, 2006 - 9:00 AM
Subject ABC TV: Looking for BURNERS
Message Hi Abject,


I'm a casting producer for ABC TV. We're researching
Burners in hopes of featuring a family of Burners on
our primetime reality show WIFE SWAP. I'm wondering if
you'd consider posting my search and sharing it with
your tribe.

All families featured on the show receive a $20,000
honorarium. If you refer a family that we feature on
the show you receive $1,000.

Potential families can live anywhere in the United
States, but we ask that families applying for the show
consist of two parents and have at least one child,
age 5 or older, living at home.


Casting immediately.

Thanks,

Rachelle
212-404-2442
Rachelle.Mendez@rdfusa.com

Thursday, May 18, 2006
"Only In America" Breach of Contract

On February 2, 2006, "Only In America-Burning Man" aired. In the show DaBomb's image was broadcast without her knowledge or consent. DaBomb would like to know if this has happened to others.

If this has happened to you -- if the unlawful use of your image, art or performance -- was used on this episode of "Only In America", please contact the Black Rock City Community Collective or DaBomb.

Monday, April 3, 2006
Response to Jack Rabbit Speaks

On March 30th, the Jack Rabbit Speaks posted the following:

> : Is it true that there was a reality TV show being filmed on playa
> this year?
>
> A rumor began before the event this year that the Discovery Channel
> would be filming a reality TV show in Black Rock City. The show was
> Discovery Times, which focuses on alternative culture, such as power
> tool races, etc. Mainstream media has been coming to Burning Man for ten
> years now. Recently the organization held our annual staff retreat for
> over 100 of our managers. A group of non Media Department staff, who
> were troubled about the Discovery Times piece, discussed the decision to
> allow Discovery Times to film. The staff members concluded that after
> analyzing the decision they felt the problem is that our participants do
> not understand our media selection process. If you fall into this
> category and want to learn more then please visit
>


It appears that this valid question (e.g is it true a reality tv show was filmed) was not answered, but buried in an explanation and a justification as to why media is at the event.

It is indeed a fact and not a rumor that Discovery-Times "Only In America" is a reality television show. And by BMorg's own admission (listen to BURNcast #1), it is also true that it paid a site fee for the privilege to film at Burning Man.

Even the New York Times, the partner company for the Discovery-Times network identifies this show as "reality programming". On September 2, 2005, New York Times review by Carlo Rotello, made the following comments about the show calling it what it is: "The need to construct a reality-show plot arc, clumsily signposted with portentous teasers and galumphing mood music, also hamstrings Mr. LeDuff's reporting." Below is the article in it's entirety.

As of yet, the JRS has yet to suppport or announce BURNcast, podcasts that resulted in our efforts here at SaveBRC, in an effort to educate the community about media presence at Burning Man.

These podcasts (which include interviews with Andie Grace, Larry Harvey, Danger Ranger and Maid Marian) were recorded two days before this show aired reflect a positive resolution to the questions raised by SaveBRC.org. They go in great depth how the media process works at Burning Man. In fact, Twan, the Los Angeles regional rep posted it to the LA Burners list when they first were released.

We've been were holding off on publishing the next Burncast until the JRS announcement took place because of concerns with issues of bandwidth if all three podcasts were posted at once and announced at the same time. At an average size of 30 mb per show, the downloads may be overwhelming.

The podcasts have thus far been submitted several times to BMorg.

Surely Burning Man supports independent media as well as commercial media?


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September 2, 2005
Answering Call of America's Weirdness
By CARLO ROTELLA
Every once in a while, maybe three times an episode (to judge from the first two), "Only in America" produces a moment that stays with you.

Dan, a member of an Oakland biker club called the East Bay Rats, describes the long-ago humiliation of being gang-stomped while his friends looked on and did nothing. It can't happen to him again, he says, now that he's a Rat. (Of course, you have to endure a group beating from fellow Rats when you join the club, and members regularly pound each other in a makeshift ring while friends cheer them on during informal fight nights, but people are complicated.)

Dan chokes up and walks away from Charlie LeDuff, the show's host, who stands there with his chin in his palm. The camera lingers, allowing another Rat to wander into the frame and exchange a sympathetic look with Mr. LeDuff behind Dan's back. Everything the episode wants to address, especially the urge to ratify community with intramural violence, hangs unspoken in the air between them.

In another episode, Mr. LeDuff, wearing fancy Western wear chosen by two cowboys who ride on the gay rodeo circuit, visits Thad Balkman, a Republican state representative from Oklahoma who crusades against gay marriage. After some inconclusive political fencing, Mr. LeDuff shows off his new threads to Mr. Balkman, who pronounces them "very handsome." When Mr. LeDuff asks if he looks gay in his getup, Mr. Balkman says, "No, it kind of looks like a Roy Rogers kind of deal." Mr. Balkman is so bland that at first you might not notice he's kidding.

Mr. LeDuff, a reporter for The New York Times, claims to have a populist agenda for "Only in America," which has its premiere tonight on the Discovery Times Channel. "There's so much stuff going on in this country that's not covered correctly," he says, and covering it correctly, for him, means participating: fighting in the ring, riding a bull in the rodeo. "You should certainly live, feel, breathe, eat and understand the way the other people do." He adds, "I put my body out there so the guy on the couch watching might understand the guy he won't talk to."

America's enduring weirdness beckons to an enterprising reporter seeking resonant subcultures. In addition to bikers and gay rodeo riders, Mr. LeDuff will visit arena football players, fashion models, battle re-enactors and others. Find a scene, work your way into it, hang out, point the camera at people with something to say and let them say it. You can't go wrong.

Actually, you can. Mr. LeDuff too often gets between us and the people he wants to introduce to us. He has a sense of humor, and one can appreciate the gameness of a reporter who will dress up in drag to fall off a steer, but there's just too much of him, and he can't seem to get over himself. His overstyled voiceovers do little to frame the action in an explanatory bigger picture, and he takes up too much screen time. He talks too much, and too often he's talking about himself. "These guys respect me, like, I'm a gamer," he says of the East Bay Rats. Even if true, the line makes you wince.

One also grows tired of Mr. LeDuff's self-regarding need to mark his territory. Depending on whom he's hanging out with, he will start droppin' his g's and otherwise broadening his variable regular-guy diction. When he offers an analytical insight - for instance, when women fight, "it's kinda hot" - he'll put some extra stoner drag in his voice to assure us he's no egghead. Hanging with the head Rat at ringside, Mr. LeDuff is moved to remark, "You're like the Svengali of a lost generation, man."

"Well," says the guy, "at least I throw a good party."

The need to construct a reality-show plot arc, clumsily signposted with portentous teasers and galumphing mood music, also hamstrings Mr. LeDuff's reporting.

Each episode has a sustained gimmick. Charlie's going to fight a giant Rat named Big Mike. Charlie's not going to let any gay wannabe cowboy outride him. Will he walk out or be carried out? It's forced and lame, and it suggests that "Only in America" doesn't trust regular weird American folks to hold our interest.

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Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/arts/television/02tvwk.html ?ei=5070&en=6effb0d4d4a52c83&ex=1144641600&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx =1144470271-9WIo1XUrhuNVslxomEIs+g&pagewanted=print

Carlo Rotella's most recent book is "Cut Time: An Education at the Fights" (Houghton Mifflin). He teaches at Boston College.

Thursday, February 9, 2006
Egging the Man

The following was posted on Eplaya today from PyroChix, in reponse to Charlie LeDuff egging the man:

PyroChix
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:11 am
Post subject: Charlie's Egg Throwing Stunt

I'm part of the pyro crew that was working on the man, setting up the fireworks for the night of the burn when Mr. LeDuff decided to unleash his artistic impression by throwing eggs at the Man. While seemingly innocuous, he threatened the lives of everyone on that structure. In the intense dryness and static hell that is the Playa, if that egg had knocked into something the wrong way, the explosion you saw during the Burn would've happened that afternoon... taking all of the pyro crew as well as Mr. LeDuff and the Rangers on duty to an explosive death.

By airing this act, Discovery Channel and the LLC not only condone his act of irresponsibility, they also promote future idiots to follow suit. There's a reason we have a safety perimeter on the day of the Burn, yet the LLC and Discovery Channel are representing that they refuse to understand the potential danger involved.

LeDuff has no idea how close he came to dying that day, whether from the potential explosion or the number of us that had to be restrained from kicking the crap out of him for endangering our lives. No where else in America except for Burning Man would Mr. LeDuff get away with a blatant act of potential manslaughter without being thrown into jail for at least a harsh talking to. Instead, he's getting noteriety from it.

Had the explosion occured, anything having to do with Burning Man's fire related activities would instantly be shut down because the pyrotechnician whose license the event depends on would have died. The insurance companies and legal authorities including the BLM would have to shut down the event as well. There would be no Burning Man if Mr. LeDuff's act of "artistic expression" set off an explosion. The chances that his actions could have set off an explosion were high, easily 50%. That Saturday had high levels of static electricity due to several white outs. I'm not speaking as an alarmist, I'm a realist, and I know that I could easily have died that day.

I'll be writing to the LLC and Discovery Channel regarding this act. I'm speaking for myself and not necessarily all the pyro crew members, but I want it to be on record that if anyone in future years pulls a stunt similar, legal repercussions will be sought against the LLC, Discovery Channel, and Mr. LeDuff for their irresponsible validation of hazardous acts. I invite anyone else who plans on writing to the LLC, Discovery Channel, or Charlie LeDuff to make use of my comments here. If you do so, however, I would like to know about it just for reference.

Sunday, February 5, 2006
Rip, Edit, Burn

The latest edition of the JRS mentions our still-in-production-and-upcoming podcast with the Burning Man organization and characterizes our visit to BMHQ as a positive conclusion. We wholeheartedly agree. At the moment the producers, Chai Guy and DaBomb are in the the midst of putting the material together. Though we are working to upload this podcast in a reasonable timeframe, there are logistical issues due to the physical distance between the two (Chai Guy lives in Lake Tahoe, DaBomb in Los Angeles) to be able to collaborate effectively. They are both working fast as they can while still doing their full-time jobs, learning the technical aspects of the producing the podcast and creating a meaningful piece for our listeners and for the community. Please...stay tuned...it's coming soon!

Friday, February 3, 2006
We give it a thumbs down!

Last night, the show "Only In America" aired. Many have contacted us to ask us what we think of the show.

We'd like to take this moment to remind y'all that when we first brought up the issue of Discovery Channel's presence at Burning Man, we took issues with the commercialization and exploitation of the event, privacy rights and an artist's right and ownership to their art and performance. We did not set out to be arbiters of taste of this show.

Therefore, our main mission in setting up SaveBRC.org is focused on these issues and not about our personal critique of this particular show.

That's our party line and we're sticking to it.

Having said that, many of you have insisted: peee-shaw...what did ya REALLY think of the show?

Well...um...OK...here ya go:

DaBomb's Review:

I'm offended by people who are outsiders that try to appear to be an insider. Charlie LeDuff aka "Media Man" (who has provided further evidence that the New York Times isn't worth the paper that it is printed on) pretends to get involved, makes pseudo observations and interpretations and doesn't actually try to feel the environment that he parades around in. Media Man ends up being a saccharin caricature of sophomoric pretense and posture. His show is about himself, not the cultures that he purports to explore.

Of course he had the mohawk before arriving. He had already decided what Burning Man was before he arrived. His mind wasn't open. He wasn't experiencing the now. "Its like Vegas North." Why do small minds have so much trouble understanding what is around them? His mind couldn't see the Temple. Fire breathing wasn't elemental to him, it was a novelty. In Media Man's own words: "The more I see America, the less I get it."

Just my two cents. Your mileage may vary.


Chai Guy's Review:

I want to make it clear that my objection to this show was not about the content, but rather the nature of the show, (Reality TV), the undisclosed site fees, the behavior of the crew at the event, and the commodification of Burning Man.

The original concept of the "Only in America" show didn't seem half bad. Follow a Burning Man virgin around as he experiences the event for the first time. Unfortunately that idea got lost somewhere. They replaced it with something ripped right out of the Official Burning Man Press Kit: "Become your alter ego or spoof the media itself." Source: http://www.burningman.com/press/faq.html

The "spoof" being Media Man, and I can only guess that Charlie's "alter-ego" must be Hunter S. Thompson??

You would think that a week on the playa would provide for more than an hour's worth of spontaneous, film worthy events, apparently not for Charlie LeDuff. We see Charlie ride his bike through the Greeter Gate, why not just film him arriving in his vehicle? We see Charlie being given a mohawk on the playa, but if you looked closely at the previous scenes, you'd have seen that he already had the mohawk before he came to Black Rock City.

Two weeks prior to the event Charlie was set to spin fire in the circle before the man burned with the LA Fire Conclave, allegedly by invitation of their leader, Tedward. That idea (along with letting Charlie do a "ride along" with the Black Rock Rangers) was vetoed before he got to the Playa. So the next best thing apparently was to teach Charlie how to breathe fire. Tedward being the good self-promoter that he is wears a t-shit with his company's name on it (nice product placement Tedward!). He also works the phrase "Only in America", the title of the series, into his interview with Charlie. Being the consummate L.A. actor, Tedward asks Charlie "Can we take five?" when his friends show up in their RV.

A good deal of time is spent with Tedward teaching Charlie how to breathe fire. This is where the show degenerates into what "Only In America" is really about, which is placing Charlie in "extreme" circumstances and allowing the reality TV show arch to happen.

Charlie rides his bike to the man saying, "I'm worked up enough to egg the man to see if I get beaten to a pulp". He even calls throwing eggs at the man his "Radical Self Expression". We all know it was a staged event; he threw his first egg at the man and pissed off the pyro team who were busy getting the structure ready for the burn. A Black Rock Ranger intervened and convinced him to "pretend" to throw the egg from a distance further back, and that's what you see on TV. He then gets into an altercation with someone, who cracks an egg over Charlie's head, but look closely and you'll see the producer secure the egg from Charlie after whispering in his ear before she hands it off to the "angry participant". Aside from an admonishment by the Ranger to "pick up your egg shells" the Leave No Trace ethos of the event gets left in the dust.

Charlie interviews a couple that is about to be married by a "Shaman" (who, incidentally, gushes on camera " I really love the Discovery Channel!"). Charlie proceeds to make fun of the ceremony and the "Bio Chemist from the Northwest wearing black face, spouting half baked American Indian mysticism" apparently Charlie completely misses the irony that he's been sporting a mohawk the entire week.

Upon hearing the news of Hurricane Katrina, Charlie heads off to a radio station to get the word out. Talking on the air with the radio host, Charlie becomes rather incoherent as he drifts from discussion of Katrina to the war in Iraq to a potential military draft and after a requested moment of silence (for what, I'm not exactly sure, the war, the hurricane? both?) he launches into an acapella version of "This Land Is Your Land". You kind of get the feeling here that Charlie thinks he's missing the story of the century, but isn't sure what to do about it. Unfortunately he doesn't stick around to see the money raised by participants for hurricane relief as they leave BRC, or the support offered by members of the community in the weeks and months following.

For most of the show Charlie seems rather obsessed with drug use at the event. He mentions the word "drugs" five times, as well as statements like "Some people stay high for days on end", "They like to get high", "Some don't care and just stay wasted", "Mind Freak"," Trip out", and "Just Groovin". Listening to his "Hippie Speak", it's difficult for me to remember that he and I are of the same generation.

The show does have a few moments of saving grace. These occur when participants are allowed to express themselves to the camera, in their own words. Kernul Killbuck does an excellent job of tilting Charlie off his game (I don't think Charlie likes to be touched), and delivering a great soliloquy on the event and the burning of the man. The interviews with artists like Matteo of "Head Space" were also well done.

Unfortunately those moments are few and far between. The flow is too often interrupted by Charlie's narration, which offers very little insight into Burning Man or even his own personal experience. His lack of research is readily apparent, he refers to the Black Rock Rangers as "cops", the event as "Las Vegas North" (twice actually), and the Temples of Dreams as the "Faux Buddhist Temple". The most interesting question he can think to ask Larry Harvey is "Why?" and then proceeds to look bored out of his mind during the response. I honestly expected a little more from a New York Times reporter.

Thursday, January 26, 2006
High Noon at BMHQ

That's it. We quit. It's true: if you can't beat'em, join'em. Forget Discovery Channel. It's all about independent media! Read on:

First of all, thanks for taking the time to express your opinion about corporate media such as Discovery Channel at Burning Man and also signing the petition on SaveBRC.org. For those of you who are interested, the show "Only In America" will air on February 2 at 8:00 p.m. on Discovery Times Channel.

As an interesting side note NO MENTION of the Discovery Times Channel "Only in America" Burning Man episode has been mentioned on the official Burning Man website or in the latest version of "The Jack Rabbit Speaks" newsletter (which DID happen to mention an upcoming piece on the event happening on "Current TV", but didn't offer many details). If Burning Man is so proud of this thing, why not let everyone know about it? Makes us wonder.

It has been quite a road since we first launched the website. At first we simply forwarded the petitions to BMorg directly. However, ActionGirl (AKA Andie Grace) the Director of Communications, complained that the first 40 petitions crashed her email client and implied that our efforts had caused a denial of service attack or something...pshhhawww!

After we cleared that misunderstanding up, we came to agreement with ActionGirl in which we were to hand deliver the petitions to BMorg offices (wearing tutus) as well as an opportunity to view the footage that BMorg was to approve and sign off on*. But then, BMorg reneged on this as well.

(*There was some disagreement on what footage we had been invited to view. Later Actiongrl stated that it wasn't the Discovery Times footage, that it was some other footage, what footage she was actually referring to still isn't really clear to us.)

You can read all about it here:

3playa

Eplaya

Now ActionGrl and SaveBRC.org have agreed to hand-deliver the petitions...while wearing tutus...on Tuesday, January 31. Furthermore, ActionGrl has agreed to interview for a podcast for SaveBRC.org.

Our interview with Actiongrl will focus on Burning Man, and the media and how each effect each other. We hope this will be the start of a regular monthly podcast on the event. If you have any interview questions you'd like us to ask Andie, please submit them ASAP (all questions need to be submitted by Monday, January 30th). Also, if you have any story or interview ideas for future podcasts or would like to be interviewed, give us a shout out as
well!

Thanks so much and stay tuned!

Friday, October 14, 2005
Jack Rabbit Speaks With A Forked Tongue

The most recent edition of Jack Rabbit Speaks features an announcement about the upcoming Xingolati cruise that sounds distinctly like a commercial. In one sentence I read plugs for four different for-profit business ventures.

We believed that BMorg was trying to support regionals, not snub them in favor of Carnival Cruise event, which costs in excess of $500. In promoting the cruise, no mention of the Los Angeles Decompression was mentioned which takes place tomorrow, October 15th.


The JRS barely mentions the Los Angeles Decom in any of their publications or email newsletters. In fact it was only mentioned yesterday as an oversight if you can't go on a cruise.

"Okay, if you can't make the cruise, I KNOW it's last minute, but I swear if it weren't my down time I'd have let you know sooner. And, I know they'll do it again;I have this feeling it'll be a big success."

This is out of the Jack Rabbit speaks newsletter.

The cruise in question is a highly commercial cruise featuring artists, Burning Man-types, bands (including Mutaytor) and art. But it also has a lot of corporate sponsorship, commercial and monetary goals and the spirit of Burning Man (Leave no trace, free expression, etc.) are not a part of the cruise. It is a corporate event.

Just today, Maid Marian posted a follow up to that edition of Jack Rabbit Speaks due in part to a huge response to it. In it she states: "[There] is no sellout here. I appreciate the passion and concern of everyone who I've heard from today. I'm not promoting that un-named cruise line [um...that's a lie because she did]....There's also no "sell out" going on with regard to any television shows, movies or other media outlets."

Well, Maid Marian is mistaken because the Jack Rabbit Speaks *is* the official Burning Man news outlet, and it *was* being used to promote a corporate-for-profit venture and looking to monetarily benefit from plugging several commercial ventures. And Maid Marian herself wrote that copy! C-a-r-n-i-v-a-l C-r-u-i-s-e does not spell "unnamed", sorry Marian.

Why is the (so called) official mailing list of Burning Man being used to promote For-Profit products and services of other companies?

And with regards to the media, specifically the Discovery Channel: how can a non-commerce event be shown on a network that pays for their airtime with commercials?

Friday, October 7, 2005
Larry Harvey Says

On Sunday after the burn, 2005, Larry Harvey and John Barlow gave a talk at Otter Oasis Camp.

Stickmon, who camped at Otter Oasis and knew about the Discovery Channel/New York Times deal with BM-LLC for an undisclosed fee had some concerns. During the "Q&A" portion of the talk, Stickmon asked Larry Harvey this: "How can the organizers who believe that Burning Man is not for sale justify charging a large fee to both Discovery Channel and the New York Times for documenting the festival?"

Harvey's response: "What's wrong with making some money off of them?"

This response was followed with a smattering of laughter by Harvey and the audience.

As a burners the question must be put: is Larry's response acceptable to you, in light of what you understand about Burning Man? The fee and the resulting advertising revenue generated from this program to be the gross antithesis of the "10 Principles" as set by BMorg, particularly principle #3 "Decommodification" which states: "our community seeks to create social environments that are unmediated by commercial sponsorships, transactions, or advertising."

Members of the Black Rock City Community Collective will be at San Francisco Decompression this Sunday, October 9th. We have invited the BM-LLC to speak to the Community regarding this issue and we are still awaiting a response. We hope that BM-LLC will agree to this discussion, because we believe in Principle #9 that "Immediate experience is, in many ways, the most important touchstone of value in our culture."

On Tuesday, September 27, 2005

Andie Grace has agreed to allow us to hand deliver (under the stipulation as per our offer that we wear pretty fluffy tutus) all of your petitions. At this time, the Collective asks that you please express yourself either against or in favor of the Discovery Channel and we will personally hand them over to BMorg (in pretty fluffy tutus) and make sure that your voice is heard.



On Sun, September 25, 2005 - 8:40 PM

Andie Grace, the Communications Manager for BMorg, in response to a thread on Tribe.net submitted the following post:

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I do apologize for being so blunt, but all this feels just a bit like moving in next to the airport and then complaining about the noise. Cameras have never been *banned* at Burning Man, and we've allowed the media for years - much of it higher-end, higher-visibilty, and frankly more commercially-oriented than this. TIME magazine and the Chronicle sell adspace, you know?

We welcome the media and appreciate their efforts to tell the story of our unique corner of modern culture. We do expect them to work with us and comport themselves in a manner that respects the tenets and aspects of our community, but we have allowed this type of coverage for years and will continue to do so.

If Burning Man is a private party where only the "cool" kids are allowed to see and understand it, then, um, whatever - enjoy, and I'll be somewhere else. See, I'm not interested in working as hard as I do just to facilitate a secret party for the hip cognoscenti. What we do out there, what we all know is possible, is the type of thing that can change the world. It definitely changed mine. I *do* and have always actively hoped to share that story with the world, as long as - and here's the big nail that it all hangs on - the media get it RIGHT. Helping them to do so is my job, and I feel I have done it well over the years, as have the amazing team of people who I am so lucky to work with.

""The BORG has EVERY right to keep every single camera out of the event, if they wish to do so. of course, they don't wish this anymore, as is now clear to me. ""

We never, ever said we wanted to keep all cameras out, so I don't know what the "anymore" is referencing.

My email is bouncing because of the "petition" emails (and, I hasten to add, as the target of this petition I have no way to verify if it's the same person submitting an email over and over, so it's really hard to call an email petition a "signed document".) Plus, it's a bit hard not to take it all with a grain of salt since half the people filling out the form seem to be of the mind that Discovery is the first time we've allowed cameras at the event. Intelligent discourse I will listen to, but it would be nice if everyone reading the webpage and making up their own minds would at least take the time to get their facts straight before trotting out their indignation and barraging my inbox, keeping me from being able to do my job effectively. :\

On Sun, September 25, 2005 - 11:28 PM

Chai Guy responded to Andie Grace's response:

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Andie,

We are not trying to disrupt your work. If you would like to set up another inbox at burningman.com for the specific purpose
of receiving these complaint emails we would be more than happy to change the web page to reflect that. We ask only for your word that you, or someone with authority inside the organization take the time to read and respond to
each email (or to post a response publicly on Burningman.com or in email form which will post on the savebrc.org in it's entirety without editing).

Each petition that is forwarded to you has the person's email address included in the petition. If there is a way of making these complaints more legitimate to you, please let us know and we may consider using that method.

The issue isn't about making this a private party for the "cool" kids. This is an issue about the commodification of our event and selling that which does not belong to you. This issue is about a camera crew that showed little
respect for the event's participants or art. This issue is about a one hour reality tv program.

If you want to contact a representative of the Black Rock City Community please do so at Chaiguy@gmail.com or bombacious@hotmail.com

See the full discussion about this response on Tribe.net

Update - Tuesday, September 27, 2005:

We have really good news: Andie Grace has agreed to allow us to hand deliver (under the stipulation as per our offer that we wear pretty fluffy tutus) all of your petitions. At this time, the Collective asks that you please express yourself either against or in favor of the Discovery Channel and we will personally hand them over to BMorg (in pretty fluffy tutus) and make sure that your voice is heard. Keep those petitions, cards and letters coming while we go to a dance supply store. Or...does anybody got a coupla tutus we can borrow?

Update - Monday, September 26, 2005::

We were informed that the petition had crashed the mail box of Andie Grace, the Manager of Communications. At the time we were notified, only 49 petitions had been sent. We have since stopped forwarding this petition to her. Instead, we are holding onto all petitions until BMorg responds to us with an address of where they would like them. We have asked for their word that they will read every comment made on the petition.